Kojak just respond to this... then Im calling it quits...

[themanej2001]

Kojak man you are killing me... You can not exclude the good things to make your bad things look good... You can't exclude a momentum changing drive that he led so that your argument is kosher. Man come on you are just trying to prove a point that you think you are right I am trying to look at this from both angles...

Also Will Smith had 10.5 sacks this year and the Saints had 38 as a team... to Mathis 9.5 and Freeneys 5.5 and the Colts 25 as a team. Man you have to know these stats before you wager that much money. The Saints Pass rush has been significantly better then the Colts this year.

Also the completion percentage for opposing QB's against the colts was 64% which was the worst in the NFL. The reason I bring that up is because you can not base it on yards because teams just ran against the Colts all year...

Look man I am not saying that the Bears are the better team who knows maybe they are maybe they aren't but your reasoning for betting 50* just doesn't add up because of everything you have capped the game at has been wrong.


Kojak I am not talking trash... But The Colts gave up like 200 yards on the ground today with Bob Sanders in the game. And you ignore that fact in your paragraph again. The Ravens couldn't pass so the Colts had 8 men in the box the whole game same with the Chiefs game. I personally think Rex will keep the 8 men out of the box because his deep threat...


KOjak please just explain this man... I don't get how you can wager that much money and not know any of this...

How you can not know that the Pass rush for the Saints has been significantly better then that of the Colts.. Things like that are huge in a game like this...


Manning Jr had a huge Super Bowl game... He was the only quality played on the Panthers defense that game...


Everyone on the team was on the team last year in the playoffs including Berrian and Benson... Come on man stop making stuff up Kojak...

Also you are betting against the Bears because they had legal troubles... So did you use to bet against the Cowboys and Irvin and his crew of thugs... or how about the panthers and the steroids...

come on man you are a better capper then to look at a game from an angle like this....

Rex also played in a playoff game last yaer...

JUST PLEASE tell me how you miss this man... I respect you a lot... but you are being so one sided and ignoring these things!

 

[MookieOO]

Kojak man you are killing me... You can not exclude the good things to make your bad things look good... You can't exclude a momentum changing drive that he led so that your argument is kosher. Man come on you are just trying to prove a point that you think you are right I am trying to look at this from both angles...

Also Will Smith had 10.5 sacks this year and the Saints had 38 as a team... to Mathis 9.5 and Freeneys 5.5 and the Colts 25 as a team. Man you have to know these stats before you wager that much money. The Saints Pass rush has been significantly better then the Colts this year.

Also the completion percentage for opposing QB's against the colts was 64% which was the worst in the NFL. The reason I bring that up is because you can not base it on yards because teams just ran against the Colts all year...

Look man I am not saying that the Bears are the better team who knows maybe they are maybe they aren't but your reasoning for betting 50* just doesn't add up because of everything you have capped the game at has been wrong.


Kojak I am not talking trash... But The Colts gave up like 200 yards on the ground today with Bob Sanders in the game. And you ignore that fact in your paragraph again. The Ravens couldn't pass so the Colts had 8 men in the box the whole game same with the Chiefs game. I personally think Rex will keep the 8 men out of the box because his deep threat...


KOjak please just explain this man... I don't get how you can wager that much money and not know any of this...

How you can not know that the Pass rush for the Saints has been significantly better then that of the Colts.. Things like that are huge in a game like this...


Manning Jr had a huge Super Bowl game... He was the only quality played on the Panthers defense that game...


Everyone on the team was on the team last year in the playoffs including Berrian and Benson... Come on man stop making stuff up Kojak...

Also you are betting against the Bears because they had legal troubles... So did you use to bet against the Cowboys and Irvin and his crew of thugs... or how about the panthers and the steroids...

come on man you are a better capper then to look at a game from an angle like this....

Rex also played in a playoff game last yaer...

JUST PLEASE tell me how you miss this man... I respect you a lot... but you are being so one sided and ignoring these things!

Likewise, you should attempt to refute my argument in the other thread ... unless, as I expect, you can't. Unlike Kojak, I'm not "making anything up".

 

[UPS]

Kojak man you are killing me... You can not exclude the good things to make your bad things look good... You can't exclude a momentum changing drive that he led so that your argument is kosher. Man come on you are just trying to prove a point that you think you are right I am trying to look at this from both angles...

Also Will Smith had 10.5 sacks this year and the Saints had 38 as a team... to Mathis 9.5 and Freeneys 5.5 and the Colts 25 as a team. Man you have to know these stats before you wager that much money. The Saints Pass rush has been significantly better then the Colts this year.

Also the completion percentage for opposing QB's against the colts was 64% which was the worst in the NFL. The reason I bring that up is because you can not base it on yards because teams just ran against the Colts all year...

Look man I am not saying that the Bears are the better team who knows maybe they are maybe they aren't but your reasoning for betting 50* just doesn't add up because of everything you have capped the game at has been wrong.


Kojak I am not talking trash... But The Colts gave up like 200 yards on the ground today with Bob Sanders in the game. And you ignore that fact in your paragraph again. The Ravens couldn't pass so the Colts had 8 men in the box the whole game same with the Chiefs game. I personally think Rex will keep the 8 men out of the box because his deep threat...


KOjak please just explain this man... I don't get how you can wager that much money and not know any of this...

How you can not know that the Pass rush for the Saints has been significantly better then that of the Colts.. Things like that are huge in a game like this...


Manning Jr had a huge Super Bowl game... He was the only quality played on the Panthers defense that game...


Everyone on the team was on the team last year in the playoffs including Berrian and Benson... Come on man stop making stuff up Kojak...

Also you are betting against the Bears because they had legal troubles... So did you use to bet against the Cowboys and Irvin and his crew of thugs... or how about the panthers and the steroids...

come on man you are a better capper then to look at a game from an angle like this....

Rex also played in a playoff game last yaer...

JUST PLEASE tell me how you miss this man... I respect you a lot... but you are being so one sided and ignoring these things!

:bigfinger

 

[5starbomb]

:bigfinger

very mature....

 

[goldengreek1]

:bigfinger

SHOVE THAT UP YOUR ASS FRUIT BOOTY

 

[riverjack]

It is a "fact" that Indy gave up like 200 yards on the ground today vs. New england? New England had net rushing yards of 93 yards. How can you wager so much money and not know any of this?

 

[anpyanks]

i think manej, 5 star bomb, and golden greek should all get together and have a circle jerk... what a bunch of homos:lolBIG:

 

[themanej2001]

yeah I have been so rational about this not talking shit...

also sorry it was just a misconception because the pats ran all over the colts in teh first half then stopped running because it seemed like they paniced..

but my stats are legit..

his main reason for betting the colts was the pressure on grossman forcing him into bad decisions which makes no sense because Indy was actually second to last in the NFL in total sacks...

Also his other reasoning was experience but no ONE has super bowl experience which is all that matters in the superbowl... both teams have been to the playoffs...

ALso that them being in trouble with the law hahaha... why would that matter he said it proves they are immature and will get in trouble in florida... he acts like this isn't the biggest games in there lives...

also said that a lot of the Bears haven't been in the playoffs b4 this year forgetting they were in them last year...

Also said that Rex will be partying while Peyton studies film... please explain this rationale... yeah Rex isn't going to practice hard and study for the biggest game of his life because he will want to party lets be real...

 

[shockker21]

EJ... I am certainly not taking a side yet.. because there is way to much homework to be done.. but what I can tell you is that Rex Grossman doen NOT deserve to be playing in this super bowl .. If there was one thing holding this bears team back, ITS REX GROSSMAN... yesterday's game did not need to be as close as it was in the first half. Rex is a player that misses open receivers, under throws the long ball and panics in the pocket... My only opinion to this post is that if the bears had a Quarterback with a third of the skills of Manning ... or even half the skills of Saints QB Brees... they would hands down be the greatest team in football this year and would in my opinion be favored to win this superbowl.. but since that is not the case ..reality sets in.. and Grossman can single handedly lose this superbowl for a Bears team that should have no problem walking away with the game.

 

[husker]

you say ne ran all over them?

ne had 58 yards on 23 carries with out that 4th down run by dillon! brady was throwing the ball because they couldn't run! i thought the kc game was a fluke, but holding all three teams to under 100 yards isn't a fluke.

 

[themanej2001]

see you take out a big run to make your argument set... well then brees had less then 300 yard passing outside the Bush play haha...

they had 93 yards on 24 carries which is not great but there RB's don't compare to the Bears..


ALSO STOP WITH THE REX GROSSMAN CRAP... he led the biggest drive of the game... AND he won the game vs. the Seahawks and played a very good gamme in that one.. He struggled early yesterday but made up for it on the drive that turned the momentum

And you said if they had a QB with the Skills... If you know anything about football you would know it isn't the Skills of Grossman he is just as skilled as eveyr other QB in the NFL... he has a great arm and his mind is what holds him back sometimes... BUT HE HAS BETTER NUMBERS THEN Peyton in the Playoffs last itme I checked his Rating is 75 and Mannings 69... Manning has shown in the past that he struggles in the Playoffs and Rex has shown he plays well in big games... Peyton has struggled in big games since College while Rex has excelled in them...

Rex's rating also shout be around 85 because the INT wasn't his fault... You can't argue with results and I have been saying for the last month if you are betting against the Bears because of Rex then be prepared to throw your money awya because he will not cost the Bears a playoff game

 

[shizaun-]

Kojak man you are killing me... You can not exclude the good things to make your bad things look good... You can't exclude a momentum changing drive that he led so that your argument is kosher. Man come on you are just trying to prove a point that you think you are right I am trying to look at this from both angles...

Also Will Smith had 10.5 sacks this year and the Saints had 38 as a team... to Mathis 9.5 and Freeneys 5.5 and the Colts 25 as a team. Man you have to know these stats before you wager that much money. The Saints Pass rush has been significantly better then the Colts this year.

Also the completion percentage for opposing QB's against the colts was 64% which was the worst in the NFL. The reason I bring that up is because you can not base it on yards because teams just ran against the Colts all year...

Look man I am not saying that the Bears are the better team who knows maybe they are maybe they aren't but your reasoning for betting 50* just doesn't add up because of everything you have capped the game at has been wrong.


KOjak please just explain this man... I don't get how you can wager that much money and not know any of this...

How you can not know that the Pass rush for the Saints has been significantly better then that of the Colts.. Things like that are huge in a game like this...


Manning Jr had a huge Super Bowl game... He was the only quality played on the Panthers defense that game...


Everyone on the team was on the team last year in the playoffs including Berrian and Benson... Come on man stop making stuff up Kojak...

Also you are betting against the Bears because they had legal troubles... So did you use to bet against the Cowboys and Irvin and his crew of thugs... or how about the panthers and the steroids...

come on man you are a better capper then to look at a game from an angle like this....

Rex also played in a playoff game last yaer...

JUST PLEASE tell me how you miss this man... I respect you a lot... but you are being so one sided and ignoring these things!

Good insight


........by the way UPS:fckmad:

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

The initial replies in this thread quoted a half-page initial post???

Some real knuckleheads here.

:WTF:

 

[TenPin832]

and none of them are named Kojak